1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,000 Tonight on Fact or Faked, 2 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Paranormal Files. 3 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:08,000 Whoa! 4 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:09,000 Did you see that fin? 5 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:10,000 Are you kidding me? 6 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:12,000 Nothing is huge. 7 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:13,000 No way. 8 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:16,000 It almost looks like it has wings. 9 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:18,000 Is there somebody else here with me in this courtroom? 10 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:21,000 When he falls, instead of breaking his neck, 11 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:23,000 he was strangled for a few minutes. 12 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:24,000 You ready? 13 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:29,000 Three, two, one. 14 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,000 Release the monster. 15 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:36,000 Oh my god. 16 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,000 There's a flying saucer. 17 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,000 Getting a series of lights right there. 18 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,000 So you see what I am seeing? 19 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,000 What the heck is happening? 20 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:11,000 Hey, what's up, bud? 21 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:12,000 What's happening? 22 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:13,000 You're already at work, huh? 23 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:14,000 That's right. 24 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,000 Greetings and salutations, everyone. 25 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:17,000 Good to see you. 26 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,000 So why don't we start with Devin, huh? 27 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:22,000 I have got a very recent UFO clip for you guys. 28 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:29,000 It was shot on January 19th, 2011 in Hawaii. 29 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,000 This valley is considered to be sacred land, 30 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:35,000 and the valley is haunted by King Kamehameha's army 31 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,000 known as the Night Marchers. 32 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:38,000 Take a look at this. 33 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:39,000 Tell me what you think. 34 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:40,000 What the heck? 35 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:41,000 There it is. 36 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:45,000 Oh my god. 37 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:46,000 Whoa. 38 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,000 What is that? 39 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,000 First I was going to say it kind of looks like birds, right? 40 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,000 Yeah, the movement looks really organic, 41 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:54,000 and so does the formation, 42 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,000 so I really thought it could be a flock of birds. 43 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:59,000 Right, Hawaii is such a popular wedding destination. 44 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:02,000 Could it just be doves that were released during a wedding? 45 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:07,000 If it is doves, they are flying in a very perfect circle 46 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:08,000 that is very tight. 47 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,000 It doesn't look like a bird to me. 48 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,000 It seems like it's actually something mechanical in the sky. 49 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:15,000 Agreed. 50 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:16,000 I see what you mean, mechanical. 51 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,000 It makes us kind of a little stutter. 52 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:21,000 Like the movements don't seem fluid to be an animal. 53 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:25,000 What about some type of RC toy that we haven't seen yet? 54 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:27,000 Something that's spinning in a circle rapidly 55 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,000 and then able to be controlled? 56 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,000 I can see why you'd say that. 57 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,000 Well, it's not your typical UFO sighting, 58 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:34,000 and it's definitely testable, 59 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:35,000 so why don't we put it in the queue 60 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,000 and see what Gile has to say. 61 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:40,000 Well, we've all heard of the Loch Ness monster. 62 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,000 It seems that there might be one much closer to home 63 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,000 right in eastern Florida. 64 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,000 There have been several sightings 65 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,000 of some kind of aquatic creature. 66 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:57,000 The locals are calling it the Florida Muck Monster. 67 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:58,000 Wow. 68 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:02,000 Whoa. 69 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:03,000 What is that? 70 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:08,000 Now, this was shot in August of 2008 by Doug Garcia. 71 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,000 He was hanging out on his dock, 72 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,000 and he has a home right there on the inter-coastal waterways, 73 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:16,000 and he sees this and starts filming it right away. 74 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,000 Oh, wow, yeah, there's something in the water. 75 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,000 It's like turbulent. 76 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:22,000 Watch closely. 77 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:26,000 Whoa. 78 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:27,000 Did you see that fin? 79 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:29,000 Wow. 80 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,000 There is large sea life right off the coast. 81 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:33,000 They're in Florida. 82 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:34,000 Sharks and manatees, 83 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,000 but I've never seen anything with these large fins 84 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:37,000 like those before. 85 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,000 New sources brought in a marine biologist 86 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:41,000 to examine the video, 87 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,000 and the marine biologist ruled out 88 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,000 that this could be seals or manatees 89 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,000 because of the size and the oddly shaped fin. 90 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,000 How big do they think this creature is? 91 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:54,000 Doug and his wife say that it was between 15 and 20 feet. 92 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:55,000 Oh, wow. 93 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:56,000 Are you kidding me? 94 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:58,000 I spoke with the Garcia's, 95 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,000 and they're willing to talk to us about what they saw. 96 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:03,000 It's not often we get really clear video like this. 97 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,000 I think it should be top of our list. 98 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,000 Let's compare it to what else we have to see today. 99 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:09,000 Shilan? 100 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:10,000 All right, guys. 101 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:11,000 I don't have a video for you guys, 102 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,000 but I do have a series of stills 103 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,000 that comes from the Whaley House, 104 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,000 one of the most haunted houses in America. 105 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:23,000 It was built in 1857, 106 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:26,000 and it now resides in what's known as Old Town San Diego. 107 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,000 I've already contacted the Whaley House. 108 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:29,000 It's now a museum, 109 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:32,000 and I've spoken to the staff manager, Victor Santana, 110 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,000 and he tells me that they give reports 111 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,000 almost daily of occurrences. 112 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,000 You've got to take a look at these shots. 113 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:42,000 Oh, whoa. 114 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,000 In this courtroom, 115 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:48,000 you get this organic ghostly image. 116 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,000 It's a strangest shape. 117 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:52,000 It looks like a fetus. 118 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:54,000 Yeah, I see it. 119 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,000 I've also done a lot of research of the Whaley House. 120 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,000 The dark history actually dates back 121 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,000 to before the house was built. 122 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:05,000 The land was the location of San Diego's public gallows, 123 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,000 and they had some convicts that were hanged there. 124 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,000 Whoa, now this one. 125 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:11,000 That's a person. 126 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,000 It really looks like something. 127 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:14,000 Or a coat on a coat rack, 128 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,000 but that's definitely some clothing 129 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:17,000 right there in the middle. 130 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,000 Do you guys see there's like a slight figure 131 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:25,000 or face in the center pane top row? 132 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:26,000 Yeah. 133 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:27,000 Oh, I see it. 134 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:28,000 I do see that. 135 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:29,000 Right here. 136 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,000 It's supposed to be Thomas Whaley. 137 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:35,000 You see the whole thing. 138 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,000 It's supposed to be Thomas Whaley. 139 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:41,000 You see a mustached man in that top row center pane. 140 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:42,000 Whoa. 141 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,000 But I'm seeing a lot of splotches right there. 142 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,000 It could just look like a face. 143 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:49,000 Could that just be some kind of defect in the film? 144 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,000 There are hundreds of photos 145 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:55,000 of paranormal activity, anomalies. 146 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,000 I mean, it's just countless. 147 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,000 I'm sure we can talk to some of these photographers. 148 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,000 I like the fact there's different photographers. 149 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,000 I mean, having multiple different people snap pictures 150 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,000 and all getting similar effects. 151 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,000 That shows validity to me. 152 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:08,000 It's a solid case, Chila. 153 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:09,000 Yeah, it's interesting. 154 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,000 Okay, so the only remaining video today is mine. 155 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:20,000 You know, what I have for you is a video shot by Jessica Ponte. 156 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,000 Now, she's in Puerto Rico, 157 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,000 and she went to a spiritual retreat. 158 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,000 She films what she thinks is some type 159 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,000 of angelic fire elemental. 160 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:31,000 Take a look at this. 161 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:35,000 Oh, wow. 162 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:36,000 Wow, that thing is huge. 163 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:37,000 What is that? 164 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:41,000 There's the bonfire and this huge thing off to the right. 165 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:42,000 It's some kind of ghost. 166 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,000 I've never seen one that's so solid. 167 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:50,000 If you use your imagination, it almost looks like it has wings 168 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:51,000 or that it's made of fire 169 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,000 and it's floating above this side of the fire, 170 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,000 and then it moves to the other side. 171 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:59,000 Some people have believed that the island of Puerto Rico 172 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,000 has been a nexus of paranormal activity 173 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:02,000 in the Caribbean. 174 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:05,000 So Ben, did Jessica actually see it with her naked eye 175 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:06,000 or did she only see it on tape? 176 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:09,000 She only discovered it after she played by tape. 177 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,000 Ah, that always screams lens flare to me, 178 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,000 but you never know. 179 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,000 How do you think it stacks up against 180 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,000 everything else we've seen today? 181 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,000 I have to go at the Whaley House. 182 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:22,000 There's so much history surrounding the property. 183 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,000 I would love to investigate that place 184 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:27,000 and see if there's an explanation for these photographs. 185 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:30,000 I think you guys know that my vote goes to the party 186 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:33,000 and I know that my vote goes to the Muck Monster case. 187 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:36,000 This is a case that's been plaguing Floridians for years. 188 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:38,000 I like the Whaley House, 189 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,000 but I'm actually leaning towards the fire elemental, 190 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,000 and I can think of some creative tests 191 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,000 that we could do to replicate that thing. 192 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:45,000 It could just be a lens flare, 193 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,000 but we won't know until we test it, 194 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,000 but I really love the Whaley House. 195 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,000 I mean, when you think about those photographs, 196 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,000 there'll be some really great experiments. 197 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:56,000 Florida Muck Monster has totally piqued my attention. 198 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,000 I think we should do the Fire Fairy 199 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,000 maybe a little bit down the road. 200 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,000 Let's develop some experiments for it, 201 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,000 but why don't we do the Muck Monster? 202 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,000 It sounds like people want to go to that, 203 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,000 and the Whaley House. 204 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,000 So, Jayon Devin, why don't you come on in the Muck Monster? 205 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:13,000 Austin, Bill and Chee-Lan, why don't you go to the Whaley House? 206 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:14,000 Let's do it. 207 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:15,000 Florida it is. 208 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:31,000 You know, being in Old Town San Diego 209 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:34,000 really is like stepping into a time warp. 210 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,000 We're going to be meeting Victor Santana at the Whaley House 211 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:39,000 to get a tour of the home 212 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,000 and learn about the photographs 213 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,000 that we're going to be investigating. 214 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,000 The Whaley House has been designated as an official haunt 215 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:49,000 at the house by the U.S. Commerce Department, 216 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:52,000 an honor shared only by the infamous Winchester House. 217 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:55,000 A lot of people say that that land is cursed. 218 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,000 Once Thomas Whaley moved his family in there, 219 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,000 his infant son died of scarlet fever, 220 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,000 and then his daughter committed suicide. 221 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:04,000 And now they say that Mr. and Mrs. Whaley's ghost 222 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:07,000 roamed the property because they're unwilling to abandon their children. 223 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:11,000 Well, even after the home was converted to a museum in 1960, 224 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:13,000 the reports kept coming in. 225 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,000 You know, with the hundreds of photographs that have been taken there, 226 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,000 I mean, all of them depicting ghost images, 227 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,000 I can't say it really surprises me. 228 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,000 There's been these orbs, strange hovering lights, 229 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,000 even faces peering out of the window. 230 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:25,000 I mean, creepy stuff. 231 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:28,000 It would be really interesting to see if we could find a natural explanation 232 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,000 for all of these ghostly images, 233 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:33,000 or find out if the Whaley House is really haunted. 234 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaking of the Whaley House... 235 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:36,000 This is it. 236 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:44,000 Hey, USA Victor. 237 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:45,000 Hi, Victor. 238 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:46,000 Yes. 239 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:47,000 I'm Chee Law. 240 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:48,000 Nice to meet you. 241 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:49,000 This is Bill and Austin. 242 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:50,000 Hi, it's me, Eric. 243 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:51,000 Welcome to the Whaley House. 244 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,000 Can you tell us a little bit about the history of the Whaley House? 245 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,000 In 1557, by a man named Thomas Whaley, 246 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:58,000 he built the house and raised six kids here. 247 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:00,000 Before the house was built on this site, 248 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,000 they had the execution grounds, they had the gallows. 249 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,000 So they used to hang criminals on this site. 250 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:08,000 Wow. 251 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:11,000 Actually, you can follow me this where you can actually see... 252 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:15,000 Say, in the Aguasec in the courthouse, it was here in 1869 for two years. 253 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:20,000 We've heard about one person that was hanged named Yankee Jim. 254 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,000 Was he hanged on this spot? 255 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:23,000 Yankee Jim was executed here. 256 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:26,000 When he was executed, they did not take the correct measurements. 257 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:29,000 So when he falls, instead of breaking his neck, 258 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,000 his feet could still touch the ground. 259 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,000 He was strangled for a few minutes and then he died. 260 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:35,000 Oh. 261 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:36,000 Oh. 262 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:37,000 That's brutal. 263 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:40,000 Now, does it believe that Yankee Jim may still walk these grounds? 264 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:43,000 He's probably the first known ghost that was reported in the Whaley House, 265 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,000 reported by Thomas Whaley himself. 266 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:48,000 Do you believe some of these photographs 267 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,000 are proof of paranormal activity at the Whaley House? 268 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:51,000 I believe some of them are, yes. 269 00:10:52,000 --> 00:11:03,000 So the second floor is pretty active. 270 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:06,000 A lot of people get a lot of interesting pictures up here. 271 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:09,000 You know, they'll take their shots and they'll see silhouettes, 272 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:12,000 strange images, even actual people and their shots at what they're to begin with. 273 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:15,000 But over the years, how many pictures do you think you've been taking 274 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:17,000 that possibly depicts paranormal activity? 275 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:18,000 Thousands of pictures. 276 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:19,000 Thousands? 277 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:20,000 Thousands of pictures. 278 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:23,000 Now, Victor, these photographs are spirits. 279 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,000 Who do you think these spirits are? 280 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,000 I think a lot of the shots are the family. 281 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:30,000 It has a lot to do with the tragic events that happened to them while they were living here. 282 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:33,000 The suicide, losing the child at a very young age. 283 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:34,000 Maybe that's why they're still here. 284 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,000 Right now, we're going to set up our mobile processing lab. 285 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,000 And in it, we're going to have everything we need to tackle. 286 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:47,000 Digital photography, black and white, and color photography. 287 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:50,000 So any photograph that we choose to replicate will be able to process 288 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,000 and develop the prints right here on site. 289 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:58,000 So there's so many photographs that are documenting these legendary Waley House hauntings. 290 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:01,000 We're going to attempt to replicate a few of them and see if we can crack this case. 291 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:05,000 All right, let's take a look at some of our options here. 292 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:08,000 We have to pick the photographs that we're going to replicate in this house. 293 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:09,000 That's what we have here. 294 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:10,000 That's really clear. 295 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,000 I mean, it's almost like a graphic overlay. 296 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,000 Or even a reflection in the plexiglass. 297 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,000 I don't think it's going to be paranormal. 298 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:17,000 What else we got? 299 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:22,000 People think that this is Thomas Waley himself looking out of his kitchen window. 300 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:23,000 There's a face right there. 301 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:24,000 Yeah. 302 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:25,000 And you can actually see through it. 303 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:26,000 I like this one. 304 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:27,000 Yeah. 305 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:28,000 Let's take a look at this one. 306 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,000 This is actually the nursery here. 307 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,000 You can see that from the lamp. 308 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,000 It looks like it's just light refraction. 309 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:37,000 Yeah, you can almost see the reflection on the plexiglass just standing here. 310 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:38,000 Rule it out. 311 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:39,000 What's next? 312 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:40,000 Now, this one's interesting. 313 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,000 Yeah, I like the courthouse. 314 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:45,000 You can definitely see something that appears to be drifting along the firewall. 315 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:48,000 It definitely has a distinct, really precise shape. 316 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:49,000 I think this one's good. 317 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:50,000 I think we should do it. 318 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:51,000 Yeah, let's get to it. 319 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,000 You know, this photo is particularly interesting. 320 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:06,000 I mean, it looks like there's a shape that's drifting along the firewall. 321 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:07,000 Look how bright it is. 322 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:10,000 I'm thinking with the windows being right here next to the judge stand, 323 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:11,000 the sun could be shining in through it, 324 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,000 possibly reflecting off one of the surface 325 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,000 and projecting that image onto the wall. 326 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:19,000 I mean, this lantern right here, it looks like it has a crystal base. 327 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:22,000 What if the light is coming through, passing through the base, 328 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:25,000 and it has like a prism effect about to get on the wall? 329 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,000 Yeah, I can definitely see that. 330 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,000 I'm gonna replicate this one with this 331 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:30,000 and see if we can use different angles 332 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,000 and actually get the same shape in the picture. 333 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:33,000 Right? 334 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,000 I'm gonna use the same type of camera to emulate that photograph. 335 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:36,000 Okay. 336 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:42,000 Okay, I think we're set. 337 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:43,000 Yeah. 338 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:50,000 On my mark, three, two, one, light it up. 339 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:53,000 Nice! 340 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:54,000 Wow. 341 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:05,000 The Whaley House is one of the most haunted places in America. 342 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,000 Now we're gonna replicate some photographs 343 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:11,000 in the same rooms that they were shot in the Whaley House. 344 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:13,000 I'm gonna be using one of our standard work lights 345 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:14,000 to replicate the sun. 346 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,000 I'm basically gonna shine it onto this lantern 347 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:19,000 and see if I can project the exact same image 348 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,000 of the original photo up onto the wall. 349 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:28,000 On my mark, three, two, one, light it up. 350 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:30,000 Nice! 351 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:31,000 Wow. 352 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:32,000 You know what, not bad. 353 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:35,000 Austin, tilt it just to your right a little bit. 354 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:36,000 Look at that, that's not bad. 355 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:37,000 Yeah, that's catching it. 356 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,000 It's bright, the light is magnified. 357 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,000 I think we got it. 358 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,000 Let's head to the mobile photo lab and put this stuff out. 359 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:53,000 Wow, guys, I have the first one. 360 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:56,000 That looks good. 361 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,000 With this picture, we prove that late afternoon light 362 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:01,000 coming through the window, hitting the oil lap, 363 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,000 gives us this really magnified light effect. 364 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,000 This photo seems to have a natural explanation. 365 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,000 There's plenty of reflective surfaces in the courtroom 366 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:12,000 that could have created this light pattern on the wall. 367 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,000 I say we move onto another photograph. 368 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:15,000 Let's move onto the photo of the ghostly face 369 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,000 peering through the window. 370 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,000 This photograph definitely has a creep factor. 371 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:21,000 They actually say that this is the photograph 372 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:24,000 of Thomas Whaley peering out of his kitchen window right there. 373 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,000 I can see the resemblance to Whaley. 374 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:29,000 And the great thing about this photo 375 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:31,000 is that the photographer Terry West is a local. 376 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,000 I'll give him a call and see if he can come down to meet us. 377 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:34,000 Perfect. 378 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,000 So Terry, tell us about the night you took this photo. 379 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:41,000 Well, I took the photo from right here. 380 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:43,000 My wife and I had come to Old Town, 381 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:45,000 and I've always had an interest in the paranormal, 382 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:47,000 so the Whaley house was right up my alley. 383 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:49,000 So I've taken a bunch of pictures 384 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,000 all inside and outside the house, 385 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,000 and I was reviewing my camera, 386 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,000 and I noticed a lot of orbs in this area. 387 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:58,000 Terry, what do you think it is you photographed here? 388 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:01,000 Well, I know that there could be a million explanations, 389 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:03,000 but honestly, when I look at it, 390 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:06,000 I see a transparent male face with a mustache. 391 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,000 I do believe it's an apparition. 392 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:11,000 Were there a lot of people at the Whaley house that night? 393 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,000 There weren't that many people milling around. 394 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:16,000 And so what we're seeing here is the flash from your camera. 395 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,000 Yeah, that's the flash from my camera. 396 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:21,000 It looks like there's a mustache on the figure. 397 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,000 Did you have any facial hair or a mustache at the time? 398 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,000 Yes, I did. I had a mustache. 399 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:27,000 I was wondering if you have the equipment 400 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:29,000 that you used to shoot this picture on you. 401 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,000 I absolutely do. This little camera right here. 402 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,000 Oh, so this is a digital camera? 403 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:34,000 Yes. 404 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:36,000 So you were just pointing it right here, right about eye level. 405 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,000 Your flash was on. So it was all on automatic? 406 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:40,000 It was all on automatic. 407 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,000 Fabulous. Do you mind if we borrow this? 408 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:43,000 We do want to run some experiments. 409 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:44,000 We always want to use the same equipment. 410 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,000 Absolutely. Go right ahead. 411 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,000 Now that we've heard Terry's story, 412 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,000 we're going to try to recreate his photo 413 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:53,000 using the exact same camera and the exact same location. 414 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,000 We're going to see if we can actually replicate 415 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,000 the ghostly phantom face that we see in the window. 416 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,000 When I first saw the picture, I'm thinking, 417 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,000 he was using a flash, it's window. 418 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,000 It's probably just a reflection that he had caught of himself 419 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:05,000 when he was taking the picture. 420 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:07,000 Well, I've circled the window pane 421 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:09,000 so you can see where you need to line up your face, Austin. 422 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,000 But you need to add something, don't you? 423 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:13,000 That's right. Got it? 424 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:14,000 Key element. 425 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:15,000 Must add. 426 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,000 Ingredient to our success here. 427 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:18,000 Well, I have the original camera. 428 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:20,000 I'm going to set it on auto. 429 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:21,000 All right, let's get started. 430 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,000 Austin, I have you in the reflection 431 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:25,000 and my camera is set. 432 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,000 On three, 433 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,000 two, 434 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,000 one, photo. 435 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:35,000 Austin's reflection is there before I take the picture. 436 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,000 But once I take it, 437 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:40,000 I don't see it because the flash is so bright 438 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,000 against that glass 439 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,000 that it really just blows out your reflection. 440 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,000 You don't even have a reflection at this point. 441 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,000 I mean, there's another possible explanation. 442 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,000 What if there was somebody inside the house 443 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,000 who interrogated the photo and the flash 444 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:55,000 defused their image, making them look less form? 445 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:56,000 Yeah. 446 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:57,000 That's a really good point. 447 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,000 He said that he came when it was closing. 448 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,000 There was no one in the museum, supposedly. 449 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,000 But what if it was like a worker closing up? 450 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:04,000 I like it. 451 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:05,000 You guys, I'm going to head inside. 452 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:06,000 All right. 453 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:07,000 You guys, walk him. 454 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:08,000 Let me know when you're ready. 455 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:09,000 Cool. 456 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:10,000 Got it. 457 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:11,000 Our experiment with Austin's reflection 458 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:12,000 wearing the mustache didn't really work out. 459 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,000 The flash actually ended up blowing out the window 460 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,000 so much that the reflection didn't appear at all. 461 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:19,000 So we've gone ahead and sent Austin inside. 462 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,000 The picture could actually just be 463 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,000 of an employee walking around. 464 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,000 Yeah, I see Austin through the window. 465 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,000 Can you have him move to his right? 466 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:30,000 Austin, take a half step to your right. 467 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:31,000 Copy that. 468 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:32,000 In position. 469 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:33,000 How's that? 470 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:34,000 Great. 471 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:35,000 OK, ready? 472 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:36,000 Yep. 473 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:39,000 Three, two, one, photo. 474 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:40,000 OK. 475 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:41,000 All right. 476 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:42,000 I think we got it. 477 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:43,000 Be honest with me. 478 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:44,000 How does my mustache look? 479 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:45,000 It looks great. 480 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,000 I mean, look at this picture. 481 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:49,000 We got the flash right in position. 482 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,000 We got your image. 483 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:54,000 And you're a disembodied head just like this one is. 484 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:57,000 But I mean, clearly, there are huge differences, too. 485 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,000 I'm in color. 486 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:02,000 It's pretty clear that this is a person, you, standing 487 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:03,000 inside the house. 488 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,000 This is a semi-transparent figure. 489 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:06,000 We don't have that here. 490 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,000 I think we might have to take into consideration 491 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:12,000 this might be paranormal. 492 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:13,000 Honestly. 493 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:14,000 Yeah. 494 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,000 Yeah, we do. 495 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:17,000 OK, guys. 496 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,000 So our tests were inconclusive. 497 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:22,000 But reports of the Whaley house being haunted 498 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,000 go back a very long time. 499 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,000 I think we should do a nighttime investigation 500 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,000 and see if we can capture any evidence of the paranormal 501 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:29,000 using our own equipment. 502 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,000 Let's go get our equipment out. 503 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:32,000 Let's prep our gear. 504 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:35,000 There's so many reports of the Whaley house being haunted 505 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:38,000 that the US Commerce Department dubbed this house 506 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,000 as only one of two locations in the United States 507 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:44,000 as being officially haunted. 508 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,000 Now, we're going to launch our own nighttime investigation 509 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:50,000 where we hope to capture evidence of the paranormal ourselves. 510 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:51,000 All right, guys. 511 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:52,000 All the cameras are set up. 512 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:53,000 Perfect. 513 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:56,000 We have one in the children's room, one in the study, 514 00:19:56,000 --> 00:20:00,000 one in the staircase, and of course, the courtroom. 515 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,000 So we've got the whole area pretty much covered. 516 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:03,000 Sounds great. 517 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,000 I'm going to take stills around the house. 518 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:06,000 And I'll also have the thermal cameras. 519 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:07,000 I do my sweeps. 520 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,000 So if there are any anomalies in terms of temperature, 521 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:10,000 I'll let you know. 522 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:11,000 Nice. 523 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,000 And I'll be conducting an EVP session. 524 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,000 I'm going to attempt to contact Yankee Jim 525 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:18,000 in the courtroom where the gallows once stood 526 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:19,000 and where he was hanging. 527 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:22,000 I'm also going to be using an oil lamp 528 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:25,000 to see if I can get interaction with the flame itself. 529 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:28,000 I'm hopeful that if I make a request for the flame to either, 530 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:31,000 you know, get low or rise, it'll happen. 531 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,000 Okay, you guys ready to go green? 532 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:34,000 Yeah. 533 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:35,000 Ready. 534 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:39,000 In three, two, one, go green. 535 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,000 Be safe out there, guys. 536 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:54,000 There's so many reports of the Whaley House being haunted. 537 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:57,000 We're now going to move on to a night investigation. 538 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,000 The Whaley House 539 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:25,000 If anybody is here with me in this courtroom, 540 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:28,000 please communicate with me either through this device here, 541 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:31,000 which can record your voice. 542 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:34,000 And I can play it back and I can hear you. 543 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:40,000 If it's easier for you to manipulate a flame, 544 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:44,000 can you make this fire raise? 545 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:47,000 Prove to us that you're here. 546 00:21:47,000 --> 00:22:00,000 Austin, do you see a perfect circle below the ceiling? 547 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:03,000 She line, I have nothing in my visual. 548 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,000 She line for Austin. 549 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,000 Austin for She line copy. 550 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,000 All of a sudden, it just disappeared. 551 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,000 Oh, there's a sconce there. 552 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,000 I must have been a residual heat signature. 553 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,000 Copy that. 554 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:32,000 Have you learned any lessons that you can share with us, Yankee Jim? 555 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:35,000 Yankee Jim, we know how you died. 556 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,000 Are you doing that? 557 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:50,000 How's it going? 558 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,000 Good. 559 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,000 So guys, tell me about the Whaley House. 560 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,000 Well, if you recall, we went down to San Diego 561 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:00,000 to investigate the photographs from the historic Whaley House. 562 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:03,000 We selected two photos to try to replicate. 563 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:07,000 For the first photo, we chose that picture of the courtroom 564 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,000 that had that mysterious light that was drifting along the far wall. 565 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,000 The courtroom actually has a lot of significance 566 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:19,000 in that it sat over exactly where the gallows were in Old Town San Diego. 567 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:22,000 We noticed that there's big windows on the left side of the judge's desk 568 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,000 that led in a lot of sunlight. 569 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:28,000 We were operating under the theory that light coming in from the window 570 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:33,000 was hitting the base of the oil lamp, creating a prism effect up on the wall. 571 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,000 The result was this photo. 572 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,000 Wow! 573 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,000 Why don't you compare this one to the original photo? 574 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,000 Wow. 575 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,000 That's not bad at all. 576 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,000 Very clever. 577 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,000 It's a natural explanation. 578 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:53,000 In this next photograph, you can actually see a face peeking out of the upper panes. 579 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,000 A lot of people believe this to be Thomas Whaley himself. 580 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,000 Wow. 581 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,000 Now, we wanted to see if it was just a reflection of the photographer 582 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,000 who, coincidentally, has a mustache. 583 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,000 So it looks similar to the face you're seeing in a photo there. 584 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,000 There's a mustache in the original photo. 585 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,000 I needed a mustache. 586 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,000 I just looked it outside. 587 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,000 Nothing. Didn't work. The flash blew me out. 588 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,000 So then we thought, maybe it's somebody actually inside the house looking out. 589 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,000 So I went in, and here's what happened. 590 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:28,000 The big difference immediately is that you can see the skin color of Austin. 591 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:31,000 The face on the left looks almost semi-transparent. 592 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:35,000 Austin is obviously completely solid, and just a person inside the house looking out. 593 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:39,000 With all the reported paranormal activity that's been going on at the Whaley house, 594 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,000 we decided we had to do a nighttime investigation. 595 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:46,000 I decided I was going to go into the courtroom to have an EVP session. 596 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,000 Listen to the answer that you hear when I asked Yankee Jim. 597 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,000 The convict who was hanged on the grounds. 598 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,000 What? Was that? 599 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,000 That wasn't you, was it? No. It was not me. 600 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,000 I did not notice it at all. 601 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:08,000 I would have stopped the session and tried to investigate what the sound was. 602 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,000 What does Yankee Jim? 603 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:16,000 It sounded like a chair got set down or pushed. 604 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,000 Something fell. 605 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:25,000 The only thing that I can think of was what Yankee Jim would have heard when he was pronounced to death. 606 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,000 In the judge's chamber, and the gavel coming down on the bench. 607 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,000 Wow. That's a good theory. 608 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,000 So it seemed the Whaley house fact or faked? 609 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:39,000 None of these pictures were faked, but I just think that they were just a case of mistaken identity. 610 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:45,000 Even though you didn't get the same exact image, you did explain what could be the cause of the anomaly. 611 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,000 I think there were natural explanations for the photos that we chose. 612 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:54,000 However, that EVP suggests to me that there could be some paranormal activity that's occurring at the Whaley house. 613 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:58,000 It certainly supports some of the claims. I like that. That's a really great job, guys. 614 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:04,000 How did your case turn out? 615 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:10,000 We went to Jupiter, Florida to investigate this mysterious mug monster, and we got some really interesting results. 616 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,000 Coming up on Fact or Faked? 617 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,000 Paranormal Files. 618 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:18,000 Be careful, okay? 619 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,000 We're good to go. Ready? Three, two, one. 620 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:41,000 The mug monster has really created a stir here in the local community. I mean, I heard they started selling t-shirts. 621 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:47,000 They've really started to capitalize on this paranormal intrigue and has boosted the local tourism. 622 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:55,000 The tourist board actually started posting stories about the mug monster, and since then, they've had over four million hits on their website. 623 00:26:56,000 --> 00:27:03,000 This creature was seen in the Loxahagie River, which feeds through the intercoastal waterways all the way up to the Atlantic Ocean. 624 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:08,000 So because you have the fresh water leading to the salt water, you get brackish water. 625 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,000 Anything could be coming up in these channels. 626 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,000 Despite the fact that the water is so shallow, it's not a big deal. 627 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:17,000 It's a big deal. 628 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,000 If you get the water leading to the salt water, you get brackish water. 629 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,000 Anything could be coming up in these channels. 630 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:31,000 Despite the fact that there have been so many sightings and so much input from experts, no one has been able to figure out what this creature is. 631 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:35,000 I witnessed testimony by Doug Garcia, and his wife should give us a good place to start. 632 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,000 I wonder what he thinks it is. 633 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,000 This is it, guys, right here on the left. 634 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:43,000 Doug? 635 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:44,000 Yes. 636 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:45,000 Hi, I'm Jaya. 637 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:46,000 Nice to meet you. 638 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:47,000 You shot the video, huh? 639 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:48,000 It is, right around back. 640 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:49,000 Want to come around back? 641 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:50,000 Yes. 642 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:51,000 Please. 643 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,000 And this is my wife Deb. 644 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:55,000 Oh, Deb, why? 645 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:59,000 This is about where we shot the video of the creature from. 646 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:03,000 It was probably about 80 or 90 yards straight out. 647 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,000 Do you see the little PVC pipes coming out of the water? 648 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:06,000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 649 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,000 Between the little short one and the tall one, just out past that. 650 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,000 So what are the tides like here in this area? 651 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:13,000 They do change pretty quick. 652 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,000 When they start going out, the water runs pretty fast. 653 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:17,000 Same thing coming in. 654 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:18,000 Really? 655 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:22,000 What would you say the depth was then when the tide was almost high tide? 656 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:26,000 It was probably a little over four feet, maybe five feet. 657 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,000 How big do you think it was just by looking at it from your dock? 658 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:30,000 20 feet long. 659 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:32,000 20 feet? 660 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:33,000 Wow. 661 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,000 Nothing like I've ever seen before. 662 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:41,000 What do you think it was? 663 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,000 I don't know what to tell you. 664 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:48,000 I mean, I've seen whales and sharks and big fish and manatee, 665 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,000 and I've never seen anything like it. 666 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,000 So I honestly don't know what it was. 667 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,000 I think that something bred with something it shouldn't have 668 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:59,000 and created an offspring, some sort of mutant that's just not normal. 669 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,000 Doug, do you still have the camera that you shot the creature on? 670 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:06,000 We do. 671 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:07,000 It's a little hard drive camcorder. 672 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,000 Would it be right if we used it for our experiments? 673 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:10,000 Absolutely. 674 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:11,000 God grab the camera for you guys. 675 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:12,000 All right. 676 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:13,000 Sounds good. 677 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:14,000 Thanks. 678 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:15,000 Bye-bye. 679 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:16,000 Bye. 680 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:17,000 Thank you. 681 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:18,000 Now that we have the Garcia's Eyewitness accounts, 682 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,000 we're going to start with an exploratory dive and then a series of tests 683 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,000 to see if we can replicate the Muck Monster video. 684 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:31,000 I say we get in there, check out the depth, the current, even the temperature, 685 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,000 and see where the Muck Monster lives. 686 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:34,000 I agree, guys. 687 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,000 I'm already seeing some current out there. 688 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:40,000 It's very possible that there's some debris, maybe logs or sticks 689 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,000 that have maybe trapped some plastic. 690 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,000 So just in case we actually do run into the Muck Monster, 691 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,000 I've got these awesome goggles with an HD camera on it. 692 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,000 That way I can be seeing what I'm seeing underwater. 693 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,000 And I've also got this dive watch that'll tell us the depth 694 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:53,000 and the temperature of the water. 695 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,000 If you guys get any trouble, I'll be there to help you out. 696 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:56,000 Sounds good. 697 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:57,000 Do this. 698 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:08,000 Be on the lookout. 699 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,000 Of course, we've got boats here. 700 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,000 Not likely you're going to see any sharks, 701 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,000 but you might find the Muck Monster. 702 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,000 Be careful, okay? 703 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:21,000 In three, two, one. 704 00:30:33,000 --> 00:31:00,000 What's the current like, guys? 705 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,000 Are you sensing anything pushing you upstream or downstream? 706 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:04,000 There's definitely a current. 707 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,000 Maybe like one or two knots? 708 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,000 You're being pushed upstream. 709 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:09,000 Yep. 710 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:16,000 Okay, high tide's coming in then. 711 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,000 This looks just like a fin. 712 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:19,000 Hey, check this one out. 713 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,000 I mean, there's definitely a lot of debris out here. 714 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,000 Could get mistaken for something else. 715 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,000 Well, guys, why don't we pack this up and start an experiment? 716 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:34,000 Okay. 717 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,000 We've established that there's a lot of debris around here 718 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,000 and stuff that it could get caught on, 719 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,000 so I think that should be our first test. 720 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,000 I'm thinking maybe something more man-made too. 721 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,000 You know, plastic or rubbery. 722 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,000 Well, it could even be some kind of a raft. 723 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,000 Obviously, you know, this is a residential area. 724 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:50,000 Lots of people live here. 725 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,000 They're out here in this water. 726 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,000 It could be something man-made. 727 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,000 We're going to test now to see if this could just be a case 728 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,000 of mistaken identity. 729 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,000 Like a deflated raft snagged on something underneath the water 730 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:08,000 and was responsible for what we're seeing in Garcia's footage. 731 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,000 So, guys, here's the idea. 732 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,000 Okay, this raft represents the debris, of course. 733 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,000 It could be half-inflated. 734 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,000 It could have been something that was caught on some rocks, 735 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:18,000 some sticks. 736 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,000 Why don't we kind of anchor this out, 737 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:21,000 and I think the current will move it around 738 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,000 and maybe give us some of that same movement. 739 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,000 You'll head to the vantage point that's pretty similar 740 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:26,000 to the one from the original footage. 741 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,000 The only reason I think we need to move it to the sandbars 742 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:30,000 because the tide is still low, 743 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,000 otherwise we could use the dock. 744 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,000 Let's take the boat out there and let's go sink it. 745 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:35,000 Okay. 746 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:36,000 Go! 747 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,000 Ten more feet back! 748 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:45,000 Stop! 749 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:53,000 Not bad! 750 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:54,000 You ready? 751 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,000 Three, two, one! 752 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,000 Release the luck monster! 753 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:19,000 Right now we're exploring the theory 754 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,000 that what we're seeing in the original footage 755 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:22,000 could just be debris. 756 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,000 We're going to test now to see if this could just be a case 757 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,000 of mistaken identity, like a deflated raft 758 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,000 snagged on something underneath the water 759 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,000 and was responsible for what we're seeing in Garcia's footage. 760 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:41,000 Not bad! 761 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:42,000 You ready? 762 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:47,000 Three, two, one! 763 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,000 Release the luck monster! 764 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,000 Okay, guys, I think we got it! 765 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,000 Why don't you guys come on back? 766 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:58,000 Let's see what it looks like. 767 00:33:58,000 --> 00:33:59,000 Alright! 768 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:00,000 Have a look! 769 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:01,000 Take a look at this. 770 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:02,000 Let's see. 771 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,000 I think you're probably in about the same depth of water. 772 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,000 The raft has that same dark glossy look 773 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,000 that the creature in the original footage 774 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:14,000 is seeing. 775 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,000 I think it's a little bit more than that. 776 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,000 I think it's a little bit more than that. 777 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,000 I think it's a little bit more than that. 778 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,000 That dark glossy look that the creature in the original footage had. 779 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,000 It's moving a lot faster. 780 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,000 In ours, it's just still stiff. 781 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,000 It doesn't look alive. 782 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:31,000 It's almost making me think, 783 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,000 what if this is a hoax 784 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,000 and someone put this thing out there? 785 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,000 People are selling t-shirts. 786 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,000 It's become a thing to come see. 787 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,000 I mean, maybe someone wants to capitalize on that. 788 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,000 Maybe we should start looking at a hoax theory. 789 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:44,000 Yeah? 790 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,000 Alright, guys, well, let's clean up for the night 791 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,000 and come back tomorrow. 792 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,000 Our raft looked more like a piece of debris 793 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,000 snagged on something instead of a creature 794 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,000 that's moving and breathing in the water. 795 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,000 There are all kinds of ways to hoax this video 796 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,000 and make it appear as though something's coming out of the water. 797 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,000 So we are building a sea monster in three parts, 798 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,000 the center shell and two long extensions 799 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:18,000 that will represent the tail and the head. 800 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,000 That spiny fin that everyone was surprised by 801 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:26,000 is going to be this latex palm or this latex fin. 802 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,000 Devin and I are going to be underneath 803 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,000 the middle section of this muck monster. 804 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,000 You can see we have these pipes here, 805 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:33,000 which are our handles. 806 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,000 And we're going to be manipulating the action 807 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,000 of the creature underneath the water, 808 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,000 why Jail is at the vantage point filming it. 809 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,000 So Devin, we've built an air pocket underneath there, right? 810 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,000 So that we don't even need scuba, correct? 811 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:46,000 That's right. 812 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,000 In theory, we have air under there. 813 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,000 The tides are different this time of year, 814 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,000 so to maintain the same distance from the camera to the muck monster, 815 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,000 we'll have to film from the sandbar instead of the dock. 816 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,000 Alright guys, I'll be over here. Good luck! 817 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,000 Which way Jail? 818 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:04,000 That way. 819 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,000 You got it. Perfect. 820 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,000 We're going to go. Ready? 821 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,000 Three, two, one. 822 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,000 So the guys are underneath the creature right now, 823 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,000 manipulating the movement. 824 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,000 Ben's got the head, and Devin's moving the tail around. 825 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,000 It actually looks pretty good. 826 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,000 That's the movement of the head. 827 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,000 Right now, the movement looks a little more mechanical 828 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,000 than a live animal. 829 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,000 Let's hop out and see what Jail thinks. 830 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,000 Alright, let's go. 831 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,000 Let's hop out and see what Jail thinks. 832 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,000 Okay guys, I think we got it. 833 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,000 Why don't you come on back? 834 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,000 Oh my god, it's the muck monster! 835 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:03,000 Did it look it? 836 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,000 It's two muck monsters. 837 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,000 You guys, that was an awesome job. 838 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,000 I got to show you this. Check this out. 839 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,000 Look, the fin is actually pretty exact. 840 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,000 You know, one of the hardest things we had to deal with 841 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:21,000 was the back. 842 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,000 We really had to get it above water 843 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:24,000 in order to breathe underneath it, 844 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,000 to have that air pocket under there. 845 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,000 If somebody were underneath breathing, 846 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:29,000 they had to have enough space, 847 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,000 but the back of this thing would make it too bulky. 848 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,000 I think is what we're dealing with. 849 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:34,000 Right. 850 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,000 This is still more animalistic in the original video. 851 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,000 Much more natural and fluid. 852 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,000 I mean, it makes me think that we need to get a look 853 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:41,000 at a real animal. 854 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,000 I know the marine biologist ruled out sea lions 855 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,000 and manatees, but what if that's exactly what this is? 856 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,000 I'm really thinking we need to reconsider. 857 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,000 Maybe we need to go to Aquarium for ourselves 858 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:51,000 and find out. 859 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:52,000 That's a good idea. 860 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,000 Let's see some aquatic life. 861 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:55,000 Okay. 862 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,000 Do you want to help us drag this beast back in? 863 00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:58,000 Alright, let's go. 864 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:06,000 Here, guys. 865 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:09,000 Okay. 866 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:13,000 Okay. 867 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:14,000 Whoa. 868 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:15,000 Whoa. 869 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:16,000 Whoa. 870 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:17,000 Whoa. 871 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:18,000 The thing is gigantic. 872 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,000 The mug monster has really created a stir 873 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,000 here in the local community. 874 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,000 I know the marine biologist ruled out sea lions 875 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:38,000 and manatees, but what if that's exactly what this is? 876 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,000 I think what we're going to have to do next is 877 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,000 go visit the sea aquarium in Miami 878 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,000 to see if we can find the culprit for what this 879 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,000 muck monster could be mistaken for. 880 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:51,000 Okay. 881 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:52,000 Whoa. 882 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:53,000 Wow. 883 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,000 Oh, my God. 884 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,000 The thing is gigantic. 885 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:01,000 Maya? 886 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:02,000 Yes. 887 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:03,000 Hi, I'm Jai-El. 888 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:04,000 Hi, Jai-El. 889 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:05,000 Nice to meet you, Devin. 890 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:06,000 Hi, welcome. 891 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:07,000 Welcome. 892 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,000 So we're here looking into the story of the muck monster, 893 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,000 and we wanted to come to the aquarium to see 894 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,000 if there were other animals that could cause 895 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:14,000 the mistaken identity. 896 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,000 There's a lot of animals out here in Florida. 897 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,000 You have alligators nowadays. 898 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,000 You have giant boas and pythons. 899 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,000 And in the salt water, you have crocodilians 900 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,000 and even some shark species that are coming pretty close to land. 901 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,000 We have video footage, 902 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:30,000 and we'd love to show you to see what you think it is. 903 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,000 I'm almost thinking it's two creatures. 904 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:37,000 Well, and actually, it might be more. 905 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:39,000 Really? 906 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:40,000 Yes. 907 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,000 I've seen what appears to be a paddle in one area, 908 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:44,000 a body in another. 909 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,000 Probably at least two paddles. 910 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,000 I've seen two paddles in different directions. 911 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,000 This looks more what we see in manatees 912 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,000 when they have mating behavior. 913 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:55,000 In this entire group, there's probably only one female, 914 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:58,000 but she could have as many as 10 males. 915 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,000 The males in their huge flippers have what we call, 916 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,000 we call it Velcro. 917 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,000 It's a rough area, and because they're rough, 918 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,000 just like elephants, that's what they hold on to. 919 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,000 And here we've even seen it in the pools. 920 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,000 When we have only males in the pool, we call it the Velcro ball, 921 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,000 where they all hold on to each other, 922 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,000 and they literally just take turns breathing. 923 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,000 They move very slowly, 924 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,000 but you don't know where one manatee begins 925 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:20,000 and where the other one ends. 926 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,000 So you just see a lot of paddles, a lot of flippers, 927 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,000 a lot of occasional breathing. 928 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,000 So they could all be just kind of holding on to each other 929 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,000 and all rolling at the same time, flippers coming up. 930 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,000 Yes, and kind of, and the males probably, you know, 931 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,000 trying to be the dominant male there. 932 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,000 So you see a little bit of splashing with the paddles. 933 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:39,000 The analysis of this video has been inconclusive 934 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:42,000 because of the unusual shape of this tail. 935 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:49,000 So in your expert opinion, what do you think this could be? 936 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,000 I still would say it's a mating herd, 937 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,000 and that paddle, unfortunately, there's so many manatees 938 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:57,000 that have the traumatic disfigurement from being hit by boats, 939 00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,000 especially the propellers. 940 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:00,000 Wow. 941 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,000 Traumatic disfigured manatee. 942 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,000 We actually have one in the pool here. 943 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,000 That's actually worse than that. 944 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,000 Maya, we would love to go upstairs 945 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,000 and film them breaching from the surface. 946 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:11,000 Would that be possible? 947 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:12,000 Yes, come on. 948 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:13,000 Okay, sure. 949 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:14,000 Thank you. 950 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,000 Oh my God, these guys are huge. 951 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,000 Oh my goodness. 952 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,000 Well, you guys, we learned something really interesting 953 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:27,000 at the aquarium. 954 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,000 This particular manatee has a deformed fin. 955 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:31,000 Check this out. 956 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:37,000 That's the fin. 957 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:42,000 But wait a second. 958 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,000 I'm not seeing the prongs on this fin 959 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,000 that we're seeing in the original video. 960 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,000 It may not be the prongs that we're looking for, 961 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:52,000 but that doesn't mean that what we saw in the original video 962 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:53,000 wasn't a deformed manatee fin. 963 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:56,000 It turns out that manatees cannot hear the low frequency 964 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,000 of a propeller from a boat. 965 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,000 So when they pass over them a lot of times, 966 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:03,000 it injures them and it can cut up their fins. 967 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,000 So we contacted the US Geological Survey. 968 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:08,000 Now they have a program where they actually photograph 969 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:11,000 and catalog different injured manatees. 970 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:14,000 So they can identify them by their tails 971 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,000 and what kind of cuts and things they have. 972 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:19,000 Now we sent them Garcia's video. 973 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,000 Not only did they confirm that what we are seeing are manatees, 974 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:27,000 but they also sent us some photos of some injured animals. 975 00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:29,000 Take a look. 976 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:31,000 Look at that. 977 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,000 Oh, that's terrible. 978 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,000 But it looks closer to what we saw in the original video. 979 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,000 So this would explain the pronged fin 980 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:49,000 that we saw in the original video. 981 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:50,000 Yeah. 982 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:51,000 In Maya's expert opinion, 983 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,000 what you're seeing are mating manatees. 984 00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,000 It's likely that at least one of these manatees 985 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:59,000 had a deformed tail caught in some type of propeller injury. 986 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:03,000 Was the original video shot during manatee mating season? 987 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:06,000 They mate in the summer and this video was shot in August. 988 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:09,000 I think you guys did a really good job investigating this case 989 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,000 and you may have a conclusive answer. 990 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:14,000 I think you guys did the right thing by consulting and moving biologists. 991 00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:18,000 Although other people claim to have seen what they say is the muck monster, 992 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:21,000 in this specific case, we showed that it was a natural explanation. 993 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,000 Not saying the muck monster doesn't exist, 994 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:26,000 but that video is definitely just mistaken identity. 995 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:27,000 Case closed. 996 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,000 Thanks for watching.